Tempo & time signature & subdivision changes

It would be awesome to program tempo changes. Ideally there would be 3 ways to trigger a change: 1) number of bars expired 2) time expired or 3) manual switch (e.g. Bluetooth foot pedal). Once the tempo changes, it could impact the BPM/time signature/subdivision/etc. and you set up as many sections of each metronome preset as you want.

make this happen

This is great!

Merged "Tempo Maps & Song Building" #69

From another thread " Implement the ability to set tempo and metre changes inside of the create a song feature (example: 120bpm 4/4 for 32 bars, 5/4 for 16 bars, 100bpm 5/4 for 16 bars) This would be incredibly helpful for songs with complex structures or multiple movements. Additionally, being able to accept metre changes when synced to a DAW would be very helpful. Devin Gourley 2 hours ago "

Merged "Automation time signature change" #74

The 'multiple movements' idea is perfect. Would add so much versatility to the watch.

Merged "Fully Programmable "Click" Tracks & Setlists" #82

From another thread: This is the only feature that is really needed to make this a must-have device. This is what will make it or break it. Suppose there is a really complex song one is learing or has to play. One needs: programmable countdown before the song starts; programmable number of bars; programmable time signature changes; programmable tempo changes. programmable sets of “click” tracks - say, for when one has an upcoming gig and needs to preprogram an entire setlist. The idea of feeling the rhythm’s pulse rather than hearing it is very appealing, but it has to be a fully programmable rhythm station to become a breakthrough. This is what musicians care about. We don’t give a rat’s ass about fancy LED colours, iPhone synchs, beats etc. (this is for kids and bedroom musicians who practice the instrument once a week if their mom/wife is pleased with their school grades/salary). We need perfect tempos and time singnatures to play along. Period. Nothing else really matters.

Yes! I really don't want to have to sync everything to Ableton (which I don't use) or set up MIDI to do this - tempo changes should be able to be stored in the app in a single song... and as a stretch goal... ramp up/down from tempo A to B over x bars

I am kinda appalled that this isn't already a thing. like over half my songs now have changing tempos or time signatures. As soon as one of those comes along, the entire app/device has become completely useless. It's like making a painting-app but not having anything in the red colour spectrum. Or Youtube only NOW implementing the queue feature. Like how was this not implemented from the get-go.

Merged "Meter changes" #168

Does the implemented accelerando thing mean that now you'll make it that this metronome can utilize different times/tempos??? The creation of a tempo map?? Literally the people that would benefit from your devices are the prog musicians, not the 4-chord bands if you get my drift.

Right now you can do incremental tempo changes, e.g. speed up 2 BPM every bar untill 200BPM or something like that. A fully customized tempo map with irregular changes is not yet possible, but is als something on our roadmap. We will probably add this feature to the library

Yeah no I'll have to wait with my purchase until I can actually use it... Is there any indication as to how long I'll have to wait?

Unfortunately making timeline predictions for shipping software features is a dangerous game so I don't. But since the feature has not started development it won't be in the near term unfortunately. It's a highly requested featured, but also a complex feature as it touches all our wearables, Android, iOS and our server so it requires to update every single platform at once. I'll update the thread when I have news

Here is an early design mockup for how the song sections feature could look in the Library. I would be curious for any feedback! The idea would be you can automatically switch to the next section after X time, or X bars, or via a manual interaction (via the touch UI or via a connected foot pedal) https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ajf9nhlxbm02ia/Screen%20Shot%202022-06-19%20at%2009.16.46.png?dl=0

Changed the status to "In Progress"

That looks absolutely awesome! Would there be a "x number of repeats" for a selectable section? For example if your riff went over a bar of 5/8 and a bar of 7/8, could you program that into one section, and if not is there functionality to have the 5 and the 7 alternating x number of times? Is that what the "song modifier" section is for?

yes! this is excellent - thanks!

Hell yeah this is exactly what I would be looking for/was suggesting. One of my songs has like 7 time changes over the 9 minutes and this would make it possible. For the Dream Theater-esque songs with lots and lots of changes in quick succession it'd be a bitch to program, but for the stuff I do, this definitely is promising! Looking good so far :D Awesome!

This looks great - it would be awesome if we were able to name song sections. Not just "Song Section 1, 2, etc" but to label "verse, prechorus, bridge", and to be able to start the song from one of those sections as well, instead of just the beginning of the song.

These are some great ideas :) Thanks for all the input so far

What about looking at a section in terms of compound time signatures. Meaning play (three times 6/8 and a fourth bar of 7/8) and repeat that 8 times would make a lot of new events for one single beat in odd-ness right. When u cycle between several times in one riff or verse line or something, right? I am really stoked that it'll get worked on. Also an idea for having an option for a quick double beat when u enter a new section maybe? Kind of feelable markers, if u will. Cheers

In the past we had the idea to allow users who own a wearable to define a special LED color for each section - I actually forgor about that when I made the design and might add that back in. Probably a double vibration would be confusing as an indicator and get you out of rhythm but in general the idea to give an indicator is good. I didn't quite understand the first half of your message. You mean that it would be helpful if you can group sections and then repeat the sections, e.g. 3x 6/8 and 1x 7/8 forms a group, and then you can loop this rather than having to re-add this pattern many times?

Merged "Subdivision mid song" #233

Merged "Tempo changes in 'songs'" #278

From another thread: "It’s possibly been suggested before on here, but adding a section on the app for when you creat a song, you’re able to add multiple tempo and time signature changes through the song. My band writes originals, and most of the songs we play have tempo changes throughout each song, and sometimes the time signature as well. We’ve been looking at a way of being able to play along to a metronome while having tempo changes in for a while, but there’s nothing out there"

Merged "Speed burst practicing" #291

"I would love the ability to set the watch from quarter notes to eighth to sixteenth in quick succession. For instance, I’m practicing at 90bpm and want to make practicing short speed bursts in sixteenths for a half measure then go back to quarter notes then eighth notes for half a measure. I’m currently playing to a click at quarter notes and setting my Core to sixteenths. I would love the ability to program the app to allow me to have frequent timing changes. To allow for a better speed burst practice."

Merged "Programmable tempo changes" #310

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Merged "Ability to change meter in a song without stopping" #451

"I wish I could set different metronome settings for different sections of one song, so I could turn my metronome on and sing through a piece without having to stop, change settings, and trying to resume. If my first five measures are 4/4 but the meter changes, or if a piece has a different time signature per measure, as a lot of 20th century classical music does, it would be more useful to me as a classical musician to be able to go measure by measure and make my settings, on one track, and play the song all the way through with no stopping."

Yes! I totally support what Florian Simmendinger has said above: " From another thread: This is the only feature that is really needed to make this a must-have device. This is what will make it or break it. Suppose there is a really complex song one is learing or has to play. One needs: programmable countdown before the song starts; programmable number of bars; programmable time signature changes; programmable tempo changes. programmable sets of “click” tracks - say, for when one has an upcoming gig and needs to preprogram an entire setlist. The idea of feeling the rhythm’s pulse rather than hearing it is very appealing, but it has to be a fully programmable rhythm station to become a breakthrough. This is what musicians care about. We don’t give a rat’s ass about fancy LED colours, iPhone synchs, beats etc. (this is for kids and bedroom musicians who practice the instrument once a week if their mom/wife is pleased with their school grades/salary). We need perfect tempos and time singnatures to play along. Period. Nothing else really matters. Florian Simmendinger"

Yes, this is something I suggested several years ago; it is a long time in coming. I think SB should put more resources into this rather than into matters such as changing colours or importing sounds etc.

Is this still being worked on?

Yes, I am working on the designs every week. Development will start soon!

Merged "Increment tempo change" #523

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Merged "Subdivision per each bar." #659

My idea is to create a Warm Up track that starts slow then slowly builds. I was disappointed that I couldn't already do that.

One idea I just had that I dont think would be too hard, is to have it so that you could also add an option that works like a ritardando or accelerando; possibly built into a song section and have it set to start after X measures, possibly also as a seperate option for a song section. In my mind, it would work by having adjustable options for the duration in X bars, and have it speedup/slowdown either to set tempo and/or by a set factor. I feel this would be a feature well used by many musicians

Hi, yes this is considered in the current design. You'll be able to set a start and end BPM for a particular block (and you can set the duration in bars). Then it will automatically increase/decrease the tempo in that block and average out the rate of change based on the block's duration. Note: In case you didnt know, you can already practice with "Incremental tempo change" by pressing "..." in the Metronome interface

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